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	<title>Comments on: Are Google+ Hangouts the Next Hackerspaces?</title>
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		<title>By: Mandiquita</title>
		<link>http://blog.makezine.com/2011/07/21/are-google-hangouts-the-next-hackerspaces/#comment-333967</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mandiquita]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chatroulette20.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chatroulette &lt;/a&gt; 2.0&lt;/b&gt;: the new version. You can spy other conversations and create a group to chat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.chatroulette20.com" rel="nofollow">Chatroulette </a> 2.0</b>: the new version. You can spy other conversations and create a group to chat.</p>
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		<title>By: Olov Sundström</title>
		<link>http://blog.makezine.com/2011/07/21/are-google-hangouts-the-next-hackerspaces/#comment-219350</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Olov Sundström]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 00:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand the usability benefits of G+ but i also find it deeply problematic that Google is aiming to gain control over even more of our data. One of the great benefits of hacker spaces is that most of them exist independently from the tech giants like Google, Apple, Microsoft etc, that they show that alternative ways of innovation are possible outside the huge corporation structures. Since most hackers have the technological understanding to see what kind of problems the centralization of data-storage leads to it would be better if we could work to build alternative ways of communicating. This seem to be one promising project: http://freedomboxfoundation.org/ - but i&#039;m sure there are many other ways to go.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the usability benefits of G+ but i also find it deeply problematic that Google is aiming to gain control over even more of our data. One of the great benefits of hacker spaces is that most of them exist independently from the tech giants like Google, Apple, Microsoft etc, that they show that alternative ways of innovation are possible outside the huge corporation structures. Since most hackers have the technological understanding to see what kind of problems the centralization of data-storage leads to it would be better if we could work to build alternative ways of communicating. This seem to be one promising project: http://freedomboxfoundation.org/ &#8211; but i&#8217;m sure there are many other ways to go.</p>
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		<title>By: RobotGrrl </title>
		<link>http://blog.makezine.com/2011/07/21/are-google-hangouts-the-next-hackerspaces/#comment-219349</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RobotGrrl ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 01:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has anyone had any dice with getting a hangout and ustream to work at the same time? This is what happens to mine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OOF0FpKiYk&amp;feature=player_detailpage#t=85s

We had the Robot Party as a hangout, and it was really fun! However, spontaneous hangouts haven&#039;t really been successful on my end. Maybe when more people get addicted to Google+ it will be better :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone had any dice with getting a hangout and ustream to work at the same time? This is what happens to mine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OOF0FpKiYk&amp;feature=player_detailpage#t=85s</p>
<p>We had the Robot Party as a hangout, and it was really fun! However, spontaneous hangouts haven&#8217;t really been successful on my end. Maybe when more people get addicted to Google+ it will be better <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Darrel E. Edson</title>
		<link>http://blog.makezine.com/2011/07/21/are-google-hangouts-the-next-hackerspaces/#comment-219348</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Darrel E. Edson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[grrr, still no invite!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>grrr, still no invite!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 17:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[that would work too :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that would work too <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 17:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[that would work too :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that would work too <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: johngineer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[johngineer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 03:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a feeling they&#039;d encounter more untapped talent if they opened a google techshop in every &lt;i&gt;minor&lt;/i&gt; city too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a feeling they&#8217;d encounter more untapped talent if they opened a google techshop in every <i>minor</i> city too.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blog.makezine.com/2011/07/21/are-google-hangouts-the-next-hackerspaces/#comment-219343</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The limit of 10 people is pretty annoying, especially for a great host like AdaFruit. The UStream sharing looks like a good hack to address the watcher-only crew.  
Here&#039;s a somewhat complex hack for 20 participants:
* 2 hangouts with 2 Ustreams
folks in one hangout can watch the other stream and comment on it in their own or a shared chat .
It might stress your net connection, and require a couple computers &amp; operators but perhaps worthy of an experiment.   The hangout hosts would not need to be co-located, which should reduce the bandwidth required by the host.

I&#039;m going to try running a hangout during our public meeting tonight (6-9pm HST, 9-midnite PDT, 12-3am EDT).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The limit of 10 people is pretty annoying, especially for a great host like AdaFruit. The UStream sharing looks like a good hack to address the watcher-only crew.  <br />
Here&#8217;s a somewhat complex hack for 20 participants:<br />
* 2 hangouts with 2 Ustreams<br />
folks in one hangout can watch the other stream and comment on it in their own or a shared chat .<br />
It might stress your net connection, and require a couple computers &amp; operators but perhaps worthy of an experiment.   The hangout hosts would not need to be co-located, which should reduce the bandwidth required by the host.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to try running a hangout during our public meeting tonight (6-9pm HST, 9-midnite PDT, 12-3am EDT).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blog.makezine.com/2011/07/21/are-google-hangouts-the-next-hackerspaces/#comment-219344</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The limit of 10 people is pretty annoying, especially for a great host like AdaFruit. The UStream sharing looks like a good hack to address the watcher-only crew.  
Here&#039;s a somewhat complex hack for 20 participants:
* 2 hangouts with 2 Ustreams
folks in one hangout can watch the other stream and comment on it in their own or a shared chat .
It might stress your net connection, and require a couple computers &amp; operators but perhaps worthy of an experiment.   The hangout hosts would not need to be co-located, which should reduce the bandwidth required by the host.

I&#039;m going to try running a hangout during our public meeting tonight (6-9pm HST, 9-midnite PDT, 12-3am EDT).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The limit of 10 people is pretty annoying, especially for a great host like AdaFruit. The UStream sharing looks like a good hack to address the watcher-only crew.  <br />
Here&#8217;s a somewhat complex hack for 20 participants:<br />
* 2 hangouts with 2 Ustreams<br />
folks in one hangout can watch the other stream and comment on it in their own or a shared chat .<br />
It might stress your net connection, and require a couple computers &amp; operators but perhaps worthy of an experiment.   The hangout hosts would not need to be co-located, which should reduce the bandwidth required by the host.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to try running a hangout during our public meeting tonight (6-9pm HST, 9-midnite PDT, 12-3am EDT).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blog.makezine.com/2011/07/21/are-google-hangouts-the-next-hackerspaces/#comment-219342</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 23:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i think it will be &quot;in addition to&quot; as well as a natural evolution of hackerspaces, not a replacement...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think it will be &#8220;in addition to&#8221; as well as a natural evolution of hackerspaces, not a replacement&#8230;</p>
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