Comments on: Soapbox: The {Unspoken} Rules of Open Source Hardware http://blog.makezine.com/2012/02/14/soapbox-the-unspoken-rules-of-open-source-hardware/ DIY projects, how-tos, and inspiration from geeks, makers, and hackers Fri, 24 May 2013 00:12:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Klein Wenger http://blog.makezine.com/2012/02/14/soapbox-the-unspoken-rules-of-open-source-hardware/#comment-1124460 Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:57:20 +0000 http://blog.makezine.com/?p=175210#comment-1124460 I realize this is old and maybe better left alone but I have to say I was kinda rubbed the wrong way by this whole article as the basis of thinking is that the creator developer is owed something for their intellectual property. The issue I have with this is that the very concept of open source is based on the idea that ideas are inherently and infinitely evolving and products that may arise are just points on that infinite timeline. As an example, I was referenced to your article from Bart Dring’s site for makerslide wherein he implies that he appreciates it when he gets royalties back but I have to say I find this a little irritating as his product is just a minor modification from a number of base commerical t-slot products as well as numerous specialized ones that even have the idea of a V-edge – so why is it that he’s due a royalty for his particular place on the tree and not all of the other products that led to his minor (albeit valuable) innovation? Anyway, I do agree with the principles and concepts here if not the specifics and I finally found something I find to be more intellectually and philosophically acceptable so I thought I’d post it up here in case others see it way I do…

http://www.openbuildspartstore.com/fairshare-program/

It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on this version vs your unwritten rules manifesto. The fact that this one recognizes the many layers and generations of concepts going into any (many/most?) current open source projects I find much more appealing. As another example, I think its interesting that the Arduino team have gotten tons of accolades and credit but they really took the ideas of processing and wiring and to a very large degree simply repackaged them, and those ideas themselves were refined from earlier generations and so on… I’d be interested to know how much of the royalties going to the arduino team continued upstream… The point isn’t to beat up on any of the individuals who have taken royalties out of the open source hardware pie but rather to recognize the difficulty if not complete absurdity of trying to make a claim to the “real” value in an IP laden open source hardware product.

Anyway, my $0.02, would be interested in hearing your thoughts.

]]> By: Ed Roberts http://blog.makezine.com/2012/02/14/soapbox-the-unspoken-rules-of-open-source-hardware/#comment-874615 Fri, 15 Feb 2013 07:05:42 +0000 http://blog.makezine.com/?p=175210#comment-874615 The question is sometimes, why cant companies not make their own cheap copies? Take again the example of the arduino, what is the reason for an arduino clone being half or a third of the price of the proper one? They both I assume are made in China. Usually the work is done regards r&d? Just asking

]]> By: The Open Hardware Proposition | Partyrobotics http://blog.makezine.com/2012/02/14/soapbox-the-unspoken-rules-of-open-source-hardware/#comment-868203 Mon, 11 Feb 2013 01:08:56 +0000 http://blog.makezine.com/?p=175210#comment-868203 [...] Some more reading: http://www.oshwa.org/definition/ http://blog.makezine.com/2012/02/14/soapbox-the-unspoken-rules-of-open-source-hardware/ [...]

]]> By: Protei INC and Open H2O » Cesar Harada http://blog.makezine.com/2012/02/14/soapbox-the-unspoken-rules-of-open-source-hardware/#comment-795480 Tue, 04 Dec 2012 05:31:08 +0000 http://blog.makezine.com/?p=175210#comment-795480 [...] they would produce a copy-cat technology faster and cheaper. Not cool, not following “the [unspoken] rules of Open Hardware“. Makerbot industries had to close the source of the project, at the disappointment of many [...]

]]> By: Ahmet Cem TURAN (Action68) http://blog.makezine.com/2012/02/14/soapbox-the-unspoken-rules-of-open-source-hardware/#comment-730980 Tue, 25 Sep 2012 06:22:38 +0000 http://blog.makezine.com/?p=175210#comment-730980 Below response was actualy written in reply to : “Let’s try that again.” But MB seems not to like it as it is still waiting for approval so I wanted to post it here…
MakerBot has done a LOT for the community. ” I believe the community has done much more for Makerbot. Actually I can understand (especially after that stupid crowd sourcing stunt..) that MB does want to go at least aprtially closed source..
And the Software interface: I dont think that is even worth talking about. No innovation nothing new.. just closed source…

BUT behaving like MB is the only/first/sole company to produce affordable 3d printers is just relying on the “un-information” of ppl. That is not good.. As JP once pointed out sometimes it is only the name a developer benefits from…

All speeches, press-conferences etc giver the impression that MB is the innovator while truth is that it is a mimicker…

]]> By: croztech http://blog.makezine.com/2012/02/14/soapbox-the-unspoken-rules-of-open-source-hardware/#comment-706046 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 19:59:06 +0000 http://blog.makezine.com/?p=175210#comment-706046 Reblogged this on croztech and commented:
Phillip Torrone talks about open source hardware. Some words of wisdom in what is still a maturing community. All of my projects published on this blog will be as open source hardware under a CC license. (more on that later)

]]> By: David Wechsler (@dwechsler) http://blog.makezine.com/2012/02/14/soapbox-the-unspoken-rules-of-open-source-hardware/#comment-623083 Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:09:42 +0000 http://blog.makezine.com/?p=175210#comment-623083 I think this is a great discussion and I’ve learned much! I’m interested in what people say to another when they find that the license (whatever kind) is not being adhered to. Also, I think a discussion on Open Source Crafts (if there is such a thing) – how to apply these concepts to non-uC/uP based hardware.

]]> By: High Technology » Blog Archive » Soapbox: Counterfeit Open Source Hardware — Knockoffs 101 http://blog.makezine.com/2012/02/14/soapbox-the-unspoken-rules-of-open-source-hardware/#comment-435890 Thu, 19 Apr 2012 04:33:00 +0000 http://blog.makezine.com/?p=175210#comment-435890 [...] my previous article “Soapbox: The {Unspoken} Rules of Open Source Hardware” I mentioned that we as hardware makers in the community do not knock each other off. [...]

]]> By: Dustin Andrews http://blog.makezine.com/2012/02/14/soapbox-the-unspoken-rules-of-open-source-hardware/#comment-435282 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 22:24:09 +0000 http://blog.makezine.com/?p=175210#comment-435282 http://authenticinvention.com/?p=193 Words to live by, and we shall.

]]> By: Make’s rules for Open Source Hardware | AuthenticInvention.com http://blog.makezine.com/2012/02/14/soapbox-the-unspoken-rules-of-open-source-hardware/#comment-435280 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 22:23:02 +0000 http://blog.makezine.com/?p=175210#comment-435280 [...] http://blog.makezine.com/2012/02/14/soapbox-the-unspoken-rules-of-open-source-hardware/ [...]

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