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	<title>Comments on: How-To: Low-Cost Gyroscopic Camera Stabilizer</title>
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		<title>By: Bobby K</title>
		<link>http://blog.makezine.com/2012/03/12/how-to-low-cost-gyroscopic-camera-stabilizer/#comment-1199096</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobby K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 02:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You miss-understood what he meant using the tripod.  maybe before you call people &quot;stupid&quot; you shoudl consider that maybe your the one at fault. you can (as many people do) carry a tripod by one &quot;leg&quot; etc and use it as a steadycam. look it up then come back and name call.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You miss-understood what he meant using the tripod.  maybe before you call people &#8220;stupid&#8221; you shoudl consider that maybe your the one at fault. you can (as many people do) carry a tripod by one &#8220;leg&#8221; etc and use it as a steadycam. look it up then come back and name call.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://blog.makezine.com/2012/03/12/how-to-low-cost-gyroscopic-camera-stabilizer/#comment-1174049</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Randy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 17:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just so that you understand real physics.  There is no material on earth that can withstand the forces generated by 100,000 rpms.  The critical point at which structural defects or impurities in materials may cause complete disintigration is in the 60,000 to 75,000 rpm range.

The gyros pictured above have many potential dangers if not housed properly and the force they generate is diminished by running in air.  I would be amazed if these products will work for longer that 1 year of regular use, before the motor, bearings or the gimbal ceases to poerate properly.  In short, I would certainly invest the money into a product that has stood the test of time (50+ years) over something akin to a ramped up version of a childs toy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so that you understand real physics.  There is no material on earth that can withstand the forces generated by 100,000 rpms.  The critical point at which structural defects or impurities in materials may cause complete disintigration is in the 60,000 to 75,000 rpm range.</p>
<p>The gyros pictured above have many potential dangers if not housed properly and the force they generate is diminished by running in air.  I would be amazed if these products will work for longer that 1 year of regular use, before the motor, bearings or the gimbal ceases to poerate properly.  In short, I would certainly invest the money into a product that has stood the test of time (50+ years) over something akin to a ramped up version of a childs toy.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Snyder</title>
		<link>http://blog.makezine.com/2012/03/12/how-to-low-cost-gyroscopic-camera-stabilizer/#comment-1040883</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Snyder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh the pain, another invention of mine is gone..this time I&#039;m 60 years too late.  I have been thinkign of this idea in the back of my mind.  Seriously though, if they are spun quickly enough (say 100,000 RPM), the flywheels could be smaller and lighter.  Even my kid&#039;s toy gyroscopes require a decent amount of force to alter/move while they are spinning (which is what got me thinking...).  All that&#039;s needed are two cheap brushed motors, the flywheels, a &quot;frame&quot; (to hold the motors; etc and connect them to the camera&#039;s tripod socket), on/off switch, and battery.  Not sure if the cage/frame aroudn the flywheels are needed - my not just connect them to the motor shaft, and clamp the motors to the frame.  Well, holding them tighter (at both ends as shown)would be best, but more complex.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh the pain, another invention of mine is gone..this time I&#8217;m 60 years too late.  I have been thinkign of this idea in the back of my mind.  Seriously though, if they are spun quickly enough (say 100,000 RPM), the flywheels could be smaller and lighter.  Even my kid&#8217;s toy gyroscopes require a decent amount of force to alter/move while they are spinning (which is what got me thinking&#8230;).  All that&#8217;s needed are two cheap brushed motors, the flywheels, a &#8220;frame&#8221; (to hold the motors; etc and connect them to the camera&#8217;s tripod socket), on/off switch, and battery.  Not sure if the cage/frame aroudn the flywheels are needed &#8211; my not just connect them to the motor shaft, and clamp the motors to the frame.  Well, holding them tighter (at both ends as shown)would be best, but more complex.</p>
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		<title>By: Daan Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daan Gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2013 15:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think youll get better results if you put the gyros closer to the center of gravity. Patents should have expired.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think youll get better results if you put the gyros closer to the center of gravity. Patents should have expired.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Fedin</title>
		<link>http://blog.makezine.com/2012/03/12/how-to-low-cost-gyroscopic-camera-stabilizer/#comment-732291</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex Fedin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 06:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Dave,

It looked like the complete set of two gyroscopes + two gymballs + power source (battery and chargers) + that thing to bolt all the devices on + some sturdy box to make it weather-resistant ==&gt; the total price comes very close to 1000 USD.
I wanted to get it ready to be used out-of-the-box, and ordered it from Kenyon Labs (the model that is next o the basic one).
Today, it was delivered, and I made a few test shots and videos. Very like what I saw, and planning to use it wherever it is more convenuent than the traditional tripod.

Thank you, Dave, for the great idea. That would be great if you (or omeone else) could set up a production line for the devices like this for the price under $500, but I afraid this might be impossible with the presence of Kenyon Labs patents. Though, if you create a detailed documentation on what and where to buy, and then how to assemble DIY gyro stabilizer - this might not be breaching the patents, huh?

I will publish anything good I&#039;ve shoot with my stabilizer and share with you.

The best.
--Alex.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave,</p>
<p>It looked like the complete set of two gyroscopes + two gymballs + power source (battery and chargers) + that thing to bolt all the devices on + some sturdy box to make it weather-resistant ==&gt; the total price comes very close to 1000 USD.<br />
I wanted to get it ready to be used out-of-the-box, and ordered it from Kenyon Labs (the model that is next o the basic one).<br />
Today, it was delivered, and I made a few test shots and videos. Very like what I saw, and planning to use it wherever it is more convenuent than the traditional tripod.</p>
<p>Thank you, Dave, for the great idea. That would be great if you (or omeone else) could set up a production line for the devices like this for the price under $500, but I afraid this might be impossible with the presence of Kenyon Labs patents. Though, if you create a detailed documentation on what and where to buy, and then how to assemble DIY gyro stabilizer &#8211; this might not be breaching the patents, huh?</p>
<p>I will publish anything good I&#8217;ve shoot with my stabilizer and share with you.</p>
<p>The best.<br />
&#8211;Alex.</p>
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		<title>By: David Prutchi</title>
		<link>http://blog.makezine.com/2012/03/12/how-to-low-cost-gyroscopic-camera-stabilizer/#comment-724560</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Prutchi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Alex, 
The motors come with the gyroscopes sold by 
http://www.gyroscope.com/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alex,<br />
The motors come with the gyroscopes sold by<br />
<a href="http://www.gyroscope.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gyroscope.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alex Fedin</title>
		<link>http://blog.makezine.com/2012/03/12/how-to-low-cost-gyroscopic-camera-stabilizer/#comment-724211</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex Fedin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 06:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man, a couple of questions to you:
1) where to buy the motors you used?
2) how did you powered these motors?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, a couple of questions to you:<br />
1) where to buy the motors you used?<br />
2) how did you powered these motors?</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://blog.makezine.com/2012/03/12/how-to-low-cost-gyroscopic-camera-stabilizer/#comment-383354</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Will]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 15:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems to me the flaw in this design is that there is no resistance to side to side swinging motion, the result of which can be seen in the demonstration video. Why put the gyroscopes on that axis rather than have them parallel to the bottom of the camera? Then there is resistance to camera tilt in every direction. You lose the resistance to panning action, but is that a feature that you want anyway? Shouldn&#039;t normal camera moves be a lot easier to do than abnormal camera-shake moves, isn&#039;t that the point? Plus, when shooting handheld, especially with some sort of handle above the camera, as you would most likely use in conjunction with this design, the major pitfalls are going to be pendulum-like motions caused by the camera&#039;s center of gravity getting off the vertical axis and resisting gravitational force. The logical way to combat that, it seems to me, is to put a gyroscope spinning on the horizontal axis. Also, I understand that having two gyroscopes spinning in opposite direction is necessary to cancel angular momentum, but would it work to put just one gyroscope on the bottom of the camera and rely on your hand to counteract the angular momentum (my envisioned setup is attaching a handle to the camera mount such that the camera provides its own stabilizing weight (ala Fred/Hugh) and attaching one gyroscope to the bottom of the camera cuz I&#039;m cheap). Thoughts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me the flaw in this design is that there is no resistance to side to side swinging motion, the result of which can be seen in the demonstration video. Why put the gyroscopes on that axis rather than have them parallel to the bottom of the camera? Then there is resistance to camera tilt in every direction. You lose the resistance to panning action, but is that a feature that you want anyway? Shouldn&#8217;t normal camera moves be a lot easier to do than abnormal camera-shake moves, isn&#8217;t that the point? Plus, when shooting handheld, especially with some sort of handle above the camera, as you would most likely use in conjunction with this design, the major pitfalls are going to be pendulum-like motions caused by the camera&#8217;s center of gravity getting off the vertical axis and resisting gravitational force. The logical way to combat that, it seems to me, is to put a gyroscope spinning on the horizontal axis. Also, I understand that having two gyroscopes spinning in opposite direction is necessary to cancel angular momentum, but would it work to put just one gyroscope on the bottom of the camera and rely on your hand to counteract the angular momentum (my envisioned setup is attaching a handle to the camera mount such that the camera provides its own stabilizing weight (ala Fred/Hugh) and attaching one gyroscope to the bottom of the camera cuz I&#8217;m cheap). Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: ジャイロ・スタビライザーの作り方 &#124; d.i.y. Gyroscopic Camera Stabilizer : monogocoro ものごころ</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ジャイロ・スタビライザーの作り方 &#124; d.i.y. Gyroscopic Camera Stabilizer : monogocoro ものごころ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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