Comments on: Hackert0wn: The World’s First Eco/Hacker Village? http://blog.makezine.com/2012/10/10/hackert0wn-the-worlds-first-ecohacker-village/ DIY projects, how-tos, and inspiration from geeks, makers, and hackers Wed, 22 May 2013 01:21:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: The Most Valuable WN Ability | Eradica http://blog.makezine.com/2012/10/10/hackert0wn-the-worlds-first-ecohacker-village/#comment-767263 Mon, 05 Nov 2012 18:15:36 +0000 http://blog.makezine.com/?p=243959#comment-767263 [...] Hackert0wn: The World’s First Eco/Hacker Village? (makezine.com) [...]

]]> By: evanflow http://blog.makezine.com/2012/10/10/hackert0wn-the-worlds-first-ecohacker-village/#comment-754373 Mon, 22 Oct 2012 06:34:37 +0000 http://blog.makezine.com/?p=243959#comment-754373 The title of this post is misleading. As is the name of this project (which I fully support in its long-term vision).
There is an effort to create an actual “Makerville”; a hackerspace on an ecovillage scale, at http://eudea.liminoidforest.org/

]]> By: Hackert0wn: The World’s First Eco/Hacker… | More Geek http://blog.makezine.com/2012/10/10/hackert0wn-the-worlds-first-ecohacker-village/#comment-747505 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 00:35:42 +0000 http://blog.makezine.com/?p=243959#comment-747505 [...] Hackert0wn: The World’s First Eco/Hacker Village? [...]

]]> By: lol http://blog.makezine.com/2012/10/10/hackert0wn-the-worlds-first-ecohacker-village/#comment-745908 Fri, 12 Oct 2012 22:10:05 +0000 http://blog.makezine.com/?p=243959#comment-745908 Rule #1: Centralised monolithic socialised equipment is less practical than a modular standardised system, and invites political contention as it violates peoples rational self-interests. Note, typical strata boards are not democratic, Energy Concerns set prices through commodity manipulators, and your unit rental prices are 6 times higher than sharing industrial space with 5 people.

You could make each unit stand-alone for water, communication, sanitation, power, and environmental HVAC controls. That is a product people would actually buy from your group if you keep it under $10k each.

Otherwise, your project will end up a Tracker Trailer-Park social group if it ever gets funded.

I missed you hippies… the clowns of the 1% catharsis…

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]]> By: psytek http://blog.makezine.com/2012/10/10/hackert0wn-the-worlds-first-ecohacker-village/#comment-744994 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 20:56:09 +0000 http://blog.makezine.com/?p=243959#comment-744994 Thanks for making this happen!

]]> By: lol http://blog.makezine.com/2012/10/10/hackert0wn-the-worlds-first-ecohacker-village/#comment-744970 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 19:52:13 +0000 http://blog.makezine.com/?p=243959#comment-744970 So… for $20 I don’t have to support your decision to build something useless…
We study sustainability and came to data supported conclusions:
1. Complexity means your project will fail within the time your members no longer receive the public attention for political-brown-nosing
2. Maintenance cost and bureaucracy — people will never reach constructive consensus if your facility is not already self-cleaning and self-funding.

Hackers are not necessarily Hippies friend…
Some people actually try to design facilities that account for silly-human behaviours like naively repeating failed experiments.

]]> By: Math Campbell http://blog.makezine.com/2012/10/10/hackert0wn-the-worlds-first-ecohacker-village/#comment-744311 Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:56:16 +0000 http://blog.makezine.com/?p=243959#comment-744311 The fact that it might not happen (due in part because of lack of marketing and cash) does not make the proposal awful.
I’ve long thought about the notion of tech-communes, places where an entire town is made of techie-types, be it in the middle of nowhere (cheap land but low connectivity to the rest of the world, both net and resource wise), or a city-enclave.
Also feeds into the notion of Distributed Republics, which Neal Stephenson obviously did a lot of commentary on in his novels “Snow Crash” and “Diamond Age”; we’re coming to a point where these sorts of concepts are not only achievable, but critically, also sustainable.

Change the name from “Member” to “Citizen” and you might get a lot more people willing to join, but who here WOULDN’T like to live in a tech-village or outpost; somewhere where most everyone is tech-literate, and will share skills and insights.
I doubt they’ll get their $1.5million in the next 3 weeks, but I wish them the best of luck, and maybe, next time round, they’ll market it better, and give it more time to build up. I know there are a dozen nation-like projects trying to do similar things, along with related concepts like Hub:Culture, and the whole hackerspace movement as is. Don’t throw out the baby with the baby-water here, just because they (obviously) haven’t done enough to sell this one yet, doesn’t mean their idea isn’t sound etc. They just need cash.

Maybe picking somewhere where the lot doesn’t cost a million might help too….

]]> By: Ryan http://blog.makezine.com/2012/10/10/hackert0wn-the-worlds-first-ecohacker-village/#comment-744290 Wed, 10 Oct 2012 22:52:28 +0000 http://blog.makezine.com/?p=243959#comment-744290 This joke doesn’t belong on the Make blog. The mere fact that it is less than 1% funded this far in should have tipped you off.

My position doesn’t even need to be rationalized with arguments, just read their indigogo page.

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