How ice spikes happen

icespikes.jpg

Anybody else might shrug off these ice spikes as a meaningless hiccup in the preparation of a frosty beverage, but not Lenore and Windell at Evil Mad Scientist Laboratories!

Snowcrystals.com has a fairly detailed explanation of how these things form, and it's documented elsewhere as well. (Roughly speaking, supercooled water is pushed up through a hole, somewhat like magma forming a volcano.) It's relatively easy to form these in your freezer if you start with distilled water, but occasionally-- as in our case --they do occur with regular tap water.


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Posted by: nerdid.myopenid.com on November 5, 2009 at 8:21 AM

No Video?

Why didn't they do a time lapse?


Posted by: Becky Stern on November 5, 2009 at 8:22 AM

Because they didn't expect this to happen!


Posted by: ian on November 5, 2009 at 8:32 AM

video

I looked for one on the web but couldn't find anything. Would be really cool to see one form.


Posted by: las vegas criminal lawyer on November 5, 2009 at 8:28 AM

http://www.lasvegas-criminallawyer.com

Very interesting. I probably would have not even thought twice about!


Posted by: Volkemon on November 5, 2009 at 8:58 AM

Here's some video-

http://www.physics.utoronto.ca/~smorris/edl/icespikes/cube.mov

in quicktime movie format.

http://www.physics.utoronto.ca/~smorris/edl/icespikes/Lozowski_icespike.avi

another in compressed .avi format.

"Compressed avi movie of a controlled ice spike growth experiment. The frame rate is about 50X normal time. The air temperature was -11.5C and the grid squares are 1 mm. The colours that appear on the ice surface toward the end of the video are potassium permanganate crystals sprinkled onto the ice. It looks as if there is evidence of a liquid layer on the surface, suggesting (though not conclusively) that there is some overflow at the spike orifice near the end of its growth. Movie made in the ice lab of Edward Lozowski at the University of Alberta. Movie by Lesley Hill, Russ Sampson and Edward Lozowski, with technical help by Kenny Lozowski. "


Posted by: nerdid.myopenid.com on November 5, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Cool Video

Thanks Volkemon, that second video is great.


Posted by: Otter on November 5, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Dorm Fridge...

... This happened a couple times in my dorm fridge... Never could figure out how... Thanks for the post... I feel more informed!


Posted by: Andrew on November 5, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Some from my freezer

I can get them regularly by using hot tap water.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrew/sets/131633/


Posted by: Big Daddy Dave on November 5, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Moran....

Please tell me you're not one of those people putting hot tap water in your trays because you think it freezes faster....

Physics people...colder water is closer to freezing than hot water. Use cold water if you want quick cubes.


Posted by: Pelrun on November 5, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Actually, it depends on your freezer. In frost-free freezers, hot water won't make a difference. But if you're placing it on a large bed of frost, the hot water will serve to melt the frost and bed the tray down into the ice, providing a significant increase in contact area and resulting improvement of the thermal conductivity. Hence, it cools faster!


Posted by: japroach on November 5, 2009 at 10:57 PM

dave read this: http://www.math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/hot_water.html

I suspect he was experimenting, not for practical purposes..


Posted by: Pelrun on November 5, 2009 at 1:44 PM

I've seen the exact opposite of this whilst casting molten aluminium into ingots. Since aluminium shrinks as it cools (unlike ice which expands) you get a sinkhole in the ingot.


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